Monday, June 13, 2016

Outlander Cast: Prestonpans - Episode 62

Hosts Mary and Blake discuss episode 2.10 of Outlander entitled, "Prestonpans."  In this episode you'll learn all about: hating and loving Dougal, the price of battle, a good use of trickery from the writers, why Ira Steven Behr was perfect for this episode, caring about the log carriers, why winning is great but still very much somber, pissing contests, and why Blake literally cannot speak correctly through the whole episode and much more!.


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10 comments:

  1. I wanted to comment on the first 20 minutes that Blake didn't care for. Historically the treatment of this entire battle was accurate. Sullivan and Murray hated each other and their inability to work together filtered down to the troops and may have been the biggest element that caused them to lose at Culloden. Prince Charles was weak and indecisive and John Sullivan knew him as a child so he relied a great deal on Sullivan's opinion and was uncomfortable without it when the decision had to be made to trust Mr. Anderson and let him lead them to the British camp by night. It is important that we see the extent of this conflict at high command and the effect it has on the fighting men's morale. We will see more of this as we continue towards Culloden. Indecision followed by poor decisions, undo delays allowing the British to organize themselves on the battlefield, the entire endeavor was underfunded, mismanaged and ultimately lead to defeat and the destruction of the Highland clans and their culture which never recovers.

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    1. Thank you Kathy for this explanation. It helps to understand the context of the bickering of command and how it cost them the revolution.

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  2. Regarding your theories about Jamie's motivation in the pee cup scene: after Calir gave him the cup he walked past Rupert and the dead crofter's beds and saw their dejected friends. I thought I saw a decision on his face that he needed to cheer them and everyone else a little and bring back the joy of the win. His eye lit on the British soldier and he saw an opportunity to do that and to take the edge off their presence, too.

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  3. I had a couple of questions that maybe you could address... 1) Why didn't the British have their own medical care for their wounded soldiers? They were better equipped than the Highlanders. 2) Why would the British be firing off cannons in the middle of a fog bank? There was no way they could see the targets, which is probably why so many British soldiers died. Totally idiotic maneuver.
    Oh, and why didn't someone send Fergus back? They had to know who he was. A little boy shouldn't have been in the middle of a battle with just a knife!
    It was devastating to see Angus die! As much as I got angry at him for his foul temper, I grew to really like his moments of kindness to Claire and Rupert this season. I'm sure that Rupert will have a lot of guilt over it during the rest of the season.
    I'm really looking forward to Episode 211 as it was written by Diana Gabaldon herself, though I know that we are getting close to the end of the season. Just need to keep saying, "It will be okay...Voyager is coming!!"

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  4. I had a couple of questions that maybe you could address... 1) Why didn't the British have their own medical care for their wounded soldiers? They were better equipped than the Highlanders. 2) Why would the British be firing off cannons in the middle of a fog bank? There was no way they could see the targets, which is probably why so many British soldiers died. Totally idiotic maneuver.
    Oh, and why didn't someone send Fergus back? They had to know who he was. A little boy shouldn't have been in the middle of a battle with just a knife!
    It was devastating to see Angus die! As much as I got angry at him for his foul temper, I grew to really like his moments of kindness to Claire and Rupert this season. I'm sure that Rupert will have a lot of guilt over it during the rest of the season.
    I'm really looking forward to Episode 211 as it was written by Diana Gabaldon herself, though I know that we are getting close to the end of the season. Just need to keep saying, "It will be okay...Voyager is coming!!"

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  5. Good questions, Sherry. Here are some possibilities. Any British wounded at Claire's field hospital would have survived on enemy (Jacobite) ground so not been able to be brought back to their own facilities - if they didn't have retreat past whatever they had set up. Does anyone remember whether the British wounded were referred to as prisoners? They would have been (unless Charlie sweated them too much!) I agree about the cannons, but because, how would they have been able to get one there if it's wheels were gone? I can believe they would shoot anything they had in the fear of the moment though. Fergus, maybe it was assumed he was there with Jamie's permission.

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  6. You guys mentioned so much that I loved. Since I've been complaining all season about how the show has handled Jamie and Claire, I wanted to add my appreciation of how beautiful they were in this episode, especially the parting and reunion. No matter how much they each understand about the danger, this is the first time Claire has sent Jamie off to battle and the first time Jamie has left her to go to war. It really hit them even in the middle of kissing, when they stopped to look at each with a whole new level of what they mean to each other, all they have gone through, everything they have to lose written on their faces. Then the strength to pull themselves together to do what had to be done, they're both soldiers. Jamie's bow, mirroring the one before their wedding, OMG that did me in for the rest of the episode. Then, the reunion: not only a victory they share but the relief to see each other again. I have to mention both makeup and lighting here. They made Jamie's face a shade of pale we've never seen on him before. While he and Claire embrace his face was so naked, it reflected both of their emotions. As if it were still possible, these actors showed yet another escalation in Claire and Jamie's awareness of what they might lose, with barely a word said. I'd say more about the brilliant acting if I wasn't too caught up at the time to notice that they were!

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  7. You guys mentioned so much that I loved. Since I've been complaining all season about how the show has handled Jamie and Claire, I wanted to add my appreciation of how beautiful they were in this episode, especially the parting and reunion. No matter how much they each understand about the danger, this is the first time Claire has sent Jamie off to battle and the first time Jamie has left her to go to war. It really hit them even in the middle of kissing, when they stopped to look at each with a whole new level of what they mean to each other, all they have gone through, everything they have to lose written on their faces. Then the strength to pull themselves together to do what had to be done, they're both soldiers. Jamie's bow, mirroring the one before their wedding, OMG that did me in for the rest of the episode. Then, the reunion: not only a victory they share but the relief to see each other again. I have to mention both makeup and lighting here. They made Jamie's face a shade of pale we've never seen on him before. While he and Claire embrace his face was so naked, it reflected both of their emotions. As if it were still possible, these actors showed yet another escalation in Claire and Jamie's awareness of what they might lose, with barely a word said. I'd say more about the brilliant acting if I wasn't too caught up at the time to notice that they were!

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  8. Good questions, Sherry. Here are some possibilities. Any British wounded at Claire's field hospital would have survived on enemy (Jacobite) ground so not been able to be brought back to their own facilities - if they didn't have retreat past whatever they had set up. Does anyone remember whether the British wounded were referred to as prisoners? They would have been (unless Charlie sweated them too much!) I agree about the cannons, but because, how would they have been able to get one there if it's wheels were gone? I can believe they would shoot anything they had in the fear of the moment though. Fergus, maybe it was assumed he was there with Jamie's permission.

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  9. To take a crack at some of the questions raised...

    1} As Jamie explained to Claire, Cope's forces went into retreat, what few survivors escaping the battle and leaving the injured/dead behind. The Prince treated the survivors very well, as seen in the show.

    2) Copes forces were also known to be very inexperienced and inadequately trained. The cannons were damaged (by Jamie & Co), so couldn't be positioned and aimed anyhow. Still, cannons don't necessarily have to be well aimed to do their job of thinning out the advance before they got to the line.

    3) I doubt anyone even took much notice of Fergus, especially in that fog. The only people who would have taken the time in the midst of battle to stop and send him back were Jamie and maybe Mutaugh/Dougal/Angus/Rupert and I believe they were well ahead of him.

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