Outlander Podcast Hosts Mary & Blake discuss their top five favorite moments, and one eyeroll moment from Outlander season 4…
In this episode, we chat why we sort of discount Bree and Jamie meeting, why Lord John is a cheat code, and why Mary once had an experience of dancing “between the mountains.”
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Dear Mary & Blake,
I have a comment about Lord John Grey. You mentioned in your last podcast that Lord John Grey would never get it on, with someone in the pantry. I maintain that that just isn’t so. He would, because it was the best way to avoid getting caught. In the time he lives in, one could be hung, because it was considered a capital offence, no matter if your partner was a very willing participant. John Grey has at this point in his life already watched other people get caught. He isn’t scared enough to go cold turkey, but he is scared enough to take precautions. I know that John Grey seems like a hopeless romantic, mostly because of his handsomeness. But the truth of the matter is that he is actually very practical. He knows that he can’t have Jamie, whether Claire was with him or not. So John is choosing to be happy for him. And he’s choosing to be a friend, who pines for him from afar. Jamie’s ex-wife has continually tortured herself with her belief that if it wasn’t for the ‘Sassenach witch,’ the she and Jamie would live happily ever after. But John lives in the real world where even if you find someone of the same sex who is attracted to you. And if you both manage to fall in love, the world still won’t let you be together and you and your significant other could be killed for it. And let’s not forget how much John has to lose; he has a position in the house of lords, a brother who counts on him and now a son who has no idea of his secret life. William would react badly just to finding out that he was conceived out of wedlock. He’d react badly to find out that his mother’s husband tried to murder him after he was born. But to find out that his step-father who he loves is (in the world’s view) a degenerate sodamite, would destroy him. So John has learned to walk to fine line of wanting people who you can’t really have in the long term, and settling for what you can have. What Lord John can have is friendships with the Fraser family. And he’s happy enough with that.
Excellent podcast. Until Blake’s number one. No. Frank would NEVER wish Bree well on this journey. He wanted to take her away from Claire and move to England. He loved Bree. Claire was gone from him. Bree became his. Jamie was NOT welcome. No. No. So much time wasted by additions. Sometimes that is good. Sometimes verrry important things are lost because of these additions. No. Murtagh? Great addition.