Outlander Cast hosts Mary & Blake discuss Outlander episode 5.05, “Perpetual Adoration”.
In this episode we chat flashbacks informing the “present” timeline, Bree’s dramatic irony, and we basically have a candlelight vigil for Tom Brady.
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Dear Mary & Blake,
I admit that this was a step back for roger. But Brianna should have told him everything much sooner than this. She has a living stocker out there who’s hanging around their kid, he Roger is the last to know. What’s more, when Brianna went to Stephen Bonnet, she didn’t include the possibility that it might be his. She said “It’s yours” and left it at that. I understand why, she didn’t mention Roger then. Rape victims, (even today) are made to feel like whores. For her to admit there were two men in one night would be devastating. But from Roger’s POV, his wife was raped and he’s still kicking himself for that. and because of Lizzie’s misidentification, Roger lost a year of his life and the chance to ever go back to the 20th century. It’s almost like Stephen Bonnet framed him, and he did Bonnet’s time in jail. If anything, Roger should be just as angry at Bonnet as Bree. And hearing that Jamie and Claire know about his being alive, and left them both out can’t possibly make them feel good. So yes, Roger is allowed to process this privately and be upset. He feels very left out, and I’d feel the same way.
Mary, don’t you remember the perpetual adoration story line in book 2? When Claire and Jamie were at the Monastery in France, the monks participated in perpetual adoration.
Shelly…absolutely right! That was where it was! Thanks for the reminder!
I feel like a broken record, but this show is continuing to tick me off in how they are portraying Roger. And, to hear so many show-only fans — including you Blake — not care for the character — or even downright hate him — is very upsetting because Roger has always been my favorite character (yes, more than Jamie!) And, I am tired of hearing “the book is the book and the show is the show.” I get that. I am not a book purist. I understand that adaptations from book to film require changes. And, I don’t mind most changes. But, good adaptations should follow two rules: they should adhere to the basic plot line of the book, and the major characters of the book should be recognizable. The developers of The Harry Potter series understood this, and while fans were upset with some changes, the adaptations were pretty faithful to the books.
Major characters should not be changed so much that they are turned from heroes to antiheroes or even villains. Roger is a major character in the book series. He is the only character, other than Jamie and Claire, to appear in every book in the series and, he has more POV chapters than anyone other than Jamie and Claire. And, unlike someone like BJR or Bonnet, he is NOT a villain or an anti-hero. Fans should be rooting for him. But, that is not the case for many fans because of the changes to his character that the show writers have invented. On the other hand, the show took a minor character who died in book 2 (Murtagh) and made the focus of an entire season. As a result, the major plot lines of Drums in Autumn were condensed and character development — particularly of Roger and Bree — went out the window. These changes would be equivalent to the creators of the Harry Potter series changing the personality of either Hermione (or Ron) to an extend where fans hated that character. And then keeping Cedric Dickory alive and focusing entire movies around him to where Hermione and/or Ron were almost irrelevant. Ponder that for a moment!
I understand that there are a lot of fans now who have never read the books; but the initial success of this show was because of the millions of devoted fans of the books who waited decades for an adaptation. To make wholesale changes to the story to where they no longer resemble the books is a disservice to those fans. My two cents.
*stands and applauds*
Yes the writers are writing partners.
They were fixing Roger in the last two eps? Hmmm not so much. They did better this ep except for Roger running away from home over night. Leave for a bit of time but not the whole night. Roger did however have a right to be upset, because lets be honest Bree was an idiot for telling Bonnet that Jemmy was his child when she didn’t know for sure who Jemmy’s father was. Does Bree having been raped mean that no one else can have a negative reaction to her actions? She gets a continual pass?
Why would you think that Jamie wouldn’t kill Knox? Jamie does whatever it takes to protect his family and tenants. Had Jamie been arrested and hanged not only would it have affected him, but with the men from the Ridge on the list they would have been in danger too, along with Claire, Bree and Roger.
As per the podcast with the writers the whole Graham Menzies story line was to remind everyone that there is time travel in the show.
Jamie didn’t burn the inn, just made in look like Knox died of smoke inhalation. Per the podcast they wanted a scene where Jamie expressed his remorse to John Quincy Myers, so he wouldn’t have looked so cold hearted but because of time it didn’t make it in.
Murtagh is still a wanted man, so someone will have to go after him.
Claire and Bree were in London visiting relatives in season 2 when they found out about Rev. Wakefield and went to Scotland.
Why would there be consequences for Jamie killing Knox when everyone thinks Knox died from smoke inhalation. They have no reason to think murder, so no reason to go after Jamie.