Outlander Cast hosts Mary & Blake discuss Outlander episode 5.09, “Monsters And Heroes”.
In this episode we chat why standing in place is the best option, why the foundation for this season is the relationship between Jamie and Roger, and why we break our normal format today…
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I absolutely loved every second of this episode! This is my very first 5 kilts of the season. I have already watched it 4 times and will likely watch a bunch more. It is the first episode of this season that I have watched in its entirety multiple times. This episode reminds me of why I fell in love with the show in the first place – the family dynamics, character development and relationships, and the humor.
Here are my GBG
My Good is all the feels of the family relationships: Marsali calling Claire “Ma.” The MacKenzie family having happy moments in their little home. Fergus and Ian renewing their brotherly bond. Ian putting Jamie in his place. Claire and Bree having a mother-daughter moment. Fraser and Marsali with their growing family. Bree lovingly caring for her father. And, of course the overwhelmingly genuine love between Jamie and Claire. And, so many more!
My only bad has nothing to do with this episode in particular. It’s a thread that this episode is following from 506. I was REALLY bothered that Jamie would be a willing witness to Jocasta handing River Run to Jemmy. The only reason that Jamie accepted land from Tryon — and thereby indebting himself to the British — was because he and Claire DID NOT want to own a slave plantation; yet he has no problem with his grandson owning it, especially when his daughter and son-in-law were totally against it? But more importantly, if he knows that Jemmy owning River Run would be an incentive for Bonnet to try to claim him, why would he be on board with Jemmy owning it in the first place?
My Great was the bourgeoning relationship between Jamie and Roger. As a book reader, I have been waiting for this great relationship to show up, and here it was. The thing that I enjoyed the most was seeing just how similar these two men really are. If circumstances had been different at the beginning of their relationship, these two men would have been the best of friends. They have similar senses of humor, which they use to diffuse difficult situations. They will go to hell and back for their loved ones, which both men certainly have. They are both spiritual, religious men. And they both value and support strong, intelligent women. They are even related – Roger is descended from Dougal after all! And for those Roger haters who have complained about his “whining” and “self pity” I would point out that Jamie has done his fair share of that in the past, and even in this episode. And, I would point out that Roger’s “whining” was that he wanted Jamie to see him as a son – he wanted Jamie’s love and respect – which he achieved by this episode. I am certainly looking forward to seeing this father-son relationship grow!
The log carriers were the Lindsay brothers.
Buffalo/Bison did roam in the Eastern US back then. Production found an actual bison ranch in the UK to shoot the herd/close up shots.
Jamie is going after Bonnet not only because of Bree, but because he let Bonnet go and he feels the need to fix that because of the havoc Bonnet has wreaked since.
Jamie and Claire’s bedroom is in the parlor not upstairs.
Your assuming Jamie asking to be touched wasn’t the sexual touch that Claire did. She had been touching him non sexually all day.
What did you think of Roger pointing out to Jamie that he was still alive?
Five plus kilts for me. I just wish people wouldn’t make light of Claire’s bringing Jamie back as a “hand job”. Whatever it took to keep Jamie breathing was a beautiful thing. And there have been hints at Claire having supernatural powers. Didn’t Adawehi touch on it when she said Claire would reach her full power when her hair turned white? (I’m not sure if that was book only and not show. If so, I apologize).
On a side note, this week was the first time I found you guys on youtube, and your kitty rivals Adso for cuteness. Also, the bowl of maggots took me back to my childhood and the crock of meal worms we kept for the dining pleasure of my mother’s reptile pets.
Love you guys. Thanks for keeping us happy. Stay well.
Great episode. I really liked Roger’s ingenuity this episode- from taking the snake’s head to fashioning a makeshift stretcher and then to knowing where to find the maggots.
However, there were 2 things that kinda made me scratch my head— Jaime asks Roger to look after Claire and the Ridge and everything. And then 5 minutes later, he asks Roger to take Claire back to her time and go back themselves. Doesn’t seem to me he can look after the Ridge and go back. Is it just me, or did that not seem weird?
The other thing was the lovely scene with Fergus and Ian regarding Fergus intending to visit Jaime. It was really touching, and I was gearing up for an emotional scene between Jaime and Fergus (finally!)… and then nothing.
Still, great episode. The last few seasons, we’ve had the issue that the first half is slow paced, with a lot of moments and story for the characters. The back half of the seasons have been a jam-packed sprint to the finish line. This season has been better paced, but I’m curious to see what they do with the last three episodes.