Outlander Cast hosts Mary & Blake discuss Outlander episode 5.08, “Famous Last Words”.
In this episode we chat why the silent film treatment is NOT a gimmick, why unusual pairings are a strength, and why Lord John only shops in the backrooms of local neighborhood stores…
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A rousing 5 kilts for this episode. There was absolutely no bad in this episode.
Quite simply I adored seeing Professor Roger Wakefield in the John Keating role in the beginning of the show teaching his students–confident and competent and so on top of his game.
To me, he was the Roger of Season 3 (a character I really liked).
I recall how you guys had a podcast where you were discussing how each of the Outlander characters showed their love for each other: Roger is all about the verbal words, communication (and music). They are his gift to others.
So it really hit home that when Roger lost his voice due to his near-death by hanging. He is alive but lost his voice. It made sense that he would lose his whole sense of self, his self-esteem, and his self-worth.
I have to admit I was one of those who hated the cliffhanger (pun intended) last episode. The whole is Roger dead question left a bad taste in my mouth
Boy was I wrong!
I have to admit, I don’t care for silent movies, but using the silent movie format was amazing and so fitting here! It was an out of the box choice that could have been disastrous. Bravo!
The film cuts of the silent movie format interspersed when Roger reflected on his trauma or was trying to speak. I found it interesting and emotional at the same time.
It was wonderful seeing Lord John, Jocasta, the kitty, and the little one playing Germain. Marsali was a real gem in this episode! She showed her lovely softer side when she was talking about wanting to be part of a big family, how much she felt like she belonged at Frazier’s Ridge.
Not to be outdone, Jamie was so tender and paternal to Ian. It was so obvious Jamie had missed the nephew he really considers another son. What I liked best about Sam’s delivery of the lines he didn’t rush the scene, he seemed like he was really listening to Ian. Even though the kid didn’t open up, you could tell there was a history of love between the characters even though Ian was hurting.
The absolute BEST was Roger and Ian. They were images of each other. From their first greeting hello, you felt the click between the two characters–the wounded recognizes the wounded.
Ian was no longer the happy-go-lucky boy that we last saw with the Mohawk. It wasn’t just Ian’s appearance, his whole demeanor different. He was uncomfortable with something as simple as being inside the house with his family or letting someone else butcher a pig.
With both Ian and Roger, I felt that it almost hurt them to talk–Roger physically, and Ian metaphorically.
John Bell as Ian showed a depth of hurting for the character that didn’t exist in Ian previously.
Kudos to Richard Rankin as Roger. It was heartbreaking. His expressions were amazing, He said so much without saying a word. When he heard Bree singing to Jemmy, there was this glare in Roger’s eye before he broke down and cried.
I thought this was an interesting twist, Ian and Roger, together on the trip. Remember, Ian was the person who actually sold Roger to the Mohawk in the first place–-yet Roger harbored no hard feelings towards him.
The paper airplane Bree made was a great commentary–Paper isn’t made to fly, but it will if you make an airplane out of it.
Ian calling it a paper bird was cute–of course he wouldn’t know about planes. When he commented that paper birds fly but do not sing, it was very poignant. When he mentioned talking to the birds when he was with the Mohawk so he didn’t feel so alone, I was reminded about the Devil’s Mark when Claire said how birds fly in groups to protect each other.
When Ian was going to commit suicide, Roger found his voice–his gift at last.
He had listened to Ian open up about the love he lost and had counseled Ian on that his soul could be lost forever if he had killed himself was great I thought. Remember, Roger grew up with Rev Wakefield–a Reverend. Of course, he would know something about faith.
He not only told Ian to fight, but he also offered comfort and home until Ian could fight again.
Roger’s strength and gift was communicating compassion.
It was interesting to see Marsali do the Tarot (I thought she would be too superstitious for that), but in the Tarot, certain cards represent change.
It is true in Roger’s case: He has to take the best of Roger Wakefield along with Roger Mackensie. He has to become someone new (as does Ian).
I can’t wait for it.
This is Renee from Japan, where we are also doing a stay-at-home order. Not only that, but I have a newborn and 2 littles, so your podcasts have been great company to me in the hospital and a little piece of sanity for me in this season. Thank you!
Kilt rating- 4.8 kilts
Good- Though it wasn’t the primary focus, this episode made me recall all the traumas and struggles Claire and Jaime have faced through their various interactions with other characters. It made the episode multi-layered to me and relatable, with the awkward silences and moments where characters didn’t know what to say… and even when Claire was able just to soothe the moment, giving Ian his space. It was a luxury she didn’t get in her time.
Bad- my bad actually turned into a great! I wasn’t a fan of the silent film thing. I got it, but I was getting tired of it UNTIL it turned to color and I understood the many ways they were using this treatment to show the facets of what was going on. That they could do that- turn my bad around— was impressive for me.
Great- Roger’s journey. At the end- Roger said maybe this was my destiny. Why? He is dealing with not just the trauma of the hanging, but with the upheaval of his life going back in time, with being beaten and sold by his in-laws, being a tribe slave, and then returning to a ready-made family, having no appreciable skills to survive or provide and constantly feeling like the underdog and need to prove himself. Then, have his ancestor beat him, have him hung and his ability to sing taken away… well, no wonder Roger would consider this is just his sucky life.
But this just goes to show how much of a fighter Roger is— to survive all this, process it all and *still* fight. He’s just as much a fighter as Jaime, whom we never doubt, just in his own way. It may take Roger time, he may make mistakes along the way, but we’ve learned from his track record that he’s going to pull it together. And to go through this with him (the first time we’ve been able to really process in his perspective?), really justifies us to consider him a main character and protagonist that we’ve been told he is. According to the show, that is. Because he’s way more lovable in the book.